[Systers-dev] Urgent bug and need for a test cycle

[A-M Horcher]

Ready to test -- when you are ready to check.

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Kathy Richardson <kjr at casaveracruz.com>wrote:

> I wasn't explicitly on the list, but I'll let you know what I know.
> Svaksha is back home on a unix box.  Today she is working on setting up the
> systers-dev machine.  Not all the bugs have been worked out, so  it will
> depend on how long before testing, it may/may-not be possible to use the
> systers-dev machine.
>
> I also pointed Svaksha to the testing and documentation for testing from
> the last cycle.  All of the services are still up and running from that test
> pass, and the password is available.  Actually anyone that wants to learn
> the testing process and experiment a bit, can run the tests from last time
> on the test setup.  For now I believe you can create whatever lists you
> like.
> http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/development_process
>   General How Stuff Works <
> http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/general_how_stuff_works> - useful
> knowledge of Mailman, databases etc.
>   Tests <http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/tests> - how to set up
> tests, templates etc.
>   Run the tests for:   Jan 20th one - 506024
>
> Cheers,
> -Kathy
>
>
> Robin Jeffries wrote:
>
>> I'm asking questions of lots of folks here.  Can you check for your name,
>> please?
>>
>> (I think you only sent this to me, Jason.  )
>>
>> *Svaksha*, you can participate in the testing without a unix box.  90% of
>> it
>> involves either sending email or accessing the admin pages through your
>> browser.  There are a few where it helps to have ssh access to get to the
>> server and see if errors were logged or if the database was updated
>> correctly, but if you don't have putty or the like on your machine, you
>> can
>> just not sign up for those.
>> *
>> Jason,* for the tests, i think we can *skip*
>> ANVn (all of them)
>> AMM3-9
>> UOL1
>> UOM4-8
>> UOCn (all of them -- this should have no impact on non-dlists, since it
>> relates to the dlist database)
>> ULPn (all of them)
>> UPNn (all of them)
>>
>> That should make the test cycle pretty manageable.
>>
>> *Kathy Gee*, is this the right template?  Have we posted the one that has
>> the 5 emails that have to be set up with subscribing to new conversations
>> on/off in various combinations? While I don't think this bug impacts that
>> part of the code, it's close enough that it would be nice to include that
>> in
>> the testing.  Jason, it should be easy to add the new tests, just by
>> copying, if Kathy has the latest template somewhere not published yet.
>>
>> *Kanika Vats*, can you give us a progress report on where you are in
>> fixing
>> the bug and how soon you think you will be able to hand it off to the
>> testers?
>>
>> *Jen*, what machine should we use for testing this?  abiwt.org or the new
>> server?
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Jason Cox <jasonwilburcox at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I have created a new checklist page for testing the bug on the wiki here
>>> systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/checklist_specific_for_bug_583379.
>>> Robin,
>>> let me know which items don't belong for this test, and I can remove them
>>> from the list. I haven't created any lists yet, in case we are using the
>>> new
>>> server for this.
>>>
>>> As far as the actual tests go, information on the process can be found
>>> here
>>> systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/how_to_test_things and here
>>> systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/tests. A checklist is used (linked
>>> above)
>>> to record the results of each test. There are several tests separated
>>> into
>>> several categories. When we are ready for testing, we will figure out who
>>> will do which test. Some tests only require one person, but some require
>>> a
>>> few people to work together. For the multi-person tests, we will
>>> coordinate
>>> with each other through IRC or gchat, send some emails, make changes,
>>> send
>>> more emails, and keep each other informed on whether or not an email is
>>> received.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the interest in helping with testing Yian and Malveeka!
>>> Svaksha,
>>> if you get back to a Linux box in time, you can help as well. :) When the
>>> patched server is ready, we can coordinate a time to meet in IRC for
>>> testing.
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>>
>>> Jason Cox
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Robin Jeffries <robin at jeffries.org
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> We've found an important bug that needs to be fixed ASAP.
>>>>
>>>> A syster tried to access her mailman options page and caused mailman to
>>>> die.
>>>>  Kanika vats and I did some poking around, and the problem is that she
>>>> has
>>>> an email address in the dlist database with upper case characters.  That
>>>> didn't match the key we were searching on (which was all lower case), so
>>>> we
>>>> couldn't find her record, and mailman summarily crashed (luckily mailman
>>>> does a great job of recovering from problems like this and restarts with
>>>> almost no side effects).
>>>>
>>>> Kanika Vats is going to fix the problem (which apparently exists in
>>>> several
>>>> places; we never noticed it before because it's currently not possible
>>>> to
>>>> create a record with upper case letters in the email key, so none of our
>>>> testing exposed this. ) She's doing it, a) because she found the
>>>> problem,
>>>> and b) because it is in the code she wrote last summer, though it looks
>>>> like
>>>> the problem existed before her changes.  We will need to pull this over
>>>> to
>>>> abiwt.org, our current testing machine, and run a mini test cycle on
>>>> it,
>>>> as
>>>> quickly as we can.  (Jen, are we still using abiwt.org for integration
>>>> testing, or should we be using the new machine?)
>>>>
>>>> For the test cycle, I'm hoping that Jason, who is the mentor for our
>>>> testing
>>>> project and Vidya, the student on that project, can use this as a chance
>>>> to
>>>> learn how testing works now (so you really know what you are trying to
>>>> improve). We can take our current set of manual tests and pare this
>>>> cycle
>>>> down to just the ones that access the dlist database, plus a couple that
>>>> test the core functionality (like the ability to send to the list).  I'm
>>>> happy to work with you two to figure out what those tests are.  (This
>>>> could
>>>> get started now, so that we are ready to test when the code is done).
>>>>
>>>> Then we will need folks from this list to help with the testing.  It's
>>>> probably only 4-5 hours work total, which, if we get lots of people, we
>>>> can
>>>> get done with about 30 minutes of work on the part of each tester.
>>>>  Students, this will be a chance for you to learn about system testing,
>>>> which will serve you well this summer, plus you will learn more about
>>>> how
>>>> mailman works, so I hope that all of you will participate.    I'll leave
>>>> it
>>>> to Vidya and Jason to organize that when we get this far, which I hope
>>>> will
>>>> be early next week.
>>>>
>>>> We are also going to use this to try out a code review.  I was hoping to
>>>> have a bit more structure in place before doing it, but this gives me
>>>> (as
>>>> code reviewer) and kanika vats (as person being reviewed) a chance to
>>>> figure
>>>> out how to use the tools that launchpad provides.  We are going to
>>>> expect
>>>> everyone to have their code reviewed regularly this summer, so I'll try
>>>> to
>>>> be public about what we are learning, so that it will be easier for the
>>>> rest
>>>> of you.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help on this.  It's always frustrating to have to do one
>>>> of
>>>> these test cycles outside the ones we plan for the summer (and where we
>>>> give
>>>> a lot more notice), but I think it turns out to be a great opportunity
>>>> for
>>>> people to learn more about how things work here in a lightweight way.  I
>>>> appreciate everyone chipping in to make it go quickly and smoothly.
>>>>
>>>> Robin
>>>>
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