[Systers-dev] Urgent bug and need for a test cycle

[Kathy Richardson]

I wasn't explicitly on the list, but I'll let you know what I know.
Svaksha is back home on a unix box.  Today she is working on setting up 
the systers-dev machine.  Not all the bugs have been worked out, so  it 
will depend on how long before testing, it may/may-not be possible to 
use the systers-dev machine.

I also pointed Svaksha to the testing and documentation for testing from 
the last cycle.  All of the services are still up and running from that 
test pass, and the password is available.  Actually anyone that wants to 
learn the testing process and experiment a bit, can run the tests from 
last time on the test setup.  For now I believe you can create whatever 
lists you like. 

http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/development_process
    General How Stuff Works 
<http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/general_how_stuff_works> - 
useful knowledge of Mailman, databases etc.
    Tests <http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/tests> - how to set 
up tests, templates etc.
    Run the tests for:   Jan 20th one - 506024

Cheers,
-Kathy

Robin Jeffries wrote:
> I'm asking questions of lots of folks here.  Can you check for your name,
> please?
>
> (I think you only sent this to me, Jason.  )
>
> *Svaksha*, you can participate in the testing without a unix box.  90% of it
> involves either sending email or accessing the admin pages through your
> browser.  There are a few where it helps to have ssh access to get to the
> server and see if errors were logged or if the database was updated
> correctly, but if you don't have putty or the like on your machine, you can
> just not sign up for those.
> *
> Jason,* for the tests, i think we can *skip*
> ANVn (all of them)
> AMM3-9
> UOL1
> UOM4-8
> UOCn (all of them -- this should have no impact on non-dlists, since it
> relates to the dlist database)
> ULPn (all of them)
> UPNn (all of them)
>
> That should make the test cycle pretty manageable.
>
> *Kathy Gee*, is this the right template?  Have we posted the one that has
> the 5 emails that have to be set up with subscribing to new conversations
> on/off in various combinations? While I don't think this bug impacts that
> part of the code, it's close enough that it would be nice to include that in
> the testing.  Jason, it should be easy to add the new tests, just by
> copying, if Kathy has the latest template somewhere not published yet.
>
> *Kanika Vats*, can you give us a progress report on where you are in fixing
> the bug and how soon you think you will be able to hand it off to the
> testers?
>
> *Jen*, what machine should we use for testing this?  abiwt.org or the new
> server?
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Jason Cox <jasonwilburcox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> All,
>>
>> I have created a new checklist page for testing the bug on the wiki here
>> systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/checklist_specific_for_bug_583379. Robin,
>> let me know which items don't belong for this test, and I can remove them
>> from the list. I haven't created any lists yet, in case we are using the new
>> server for this.
>>
>> As far as the actual tests go, information on the process can be found here
>> systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/how_to_test_things and here
>> systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/tests. A checklist is used (linked above)
>> to record the results of each test. There are several tests separated into
>> several categories. When we are ready for testing, we will figure out who
>> will do which test. Some tests only require one person, but some require a
>> few people to work together. For the multi-person tests, we will coordinate
>> with each other through IRC or gchat, send some emails, make changes, send
>> more emails, and keep each other informed on whether or not an email is
>> received.
>>
>> Thanks for the interest in helping with testing Yian and Malveeka! Svaksha,
>> if you get back to a Linux box in time, you can help as well. :) When the
>> patched server is ready, we can coordinate a time to meet in IRC for
>> testing.
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Jason Cox
>>
>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Robin Jeffries <robin at jeffries.org>wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> We've found an important bug that needs to be fixed ASAP.
>>>
>>> A syster tried to access her mailman options page and caused mailman to
>>> die.
>>>  Kanika vats and I did some poking around, and the problem is that she has
>>> an email address in the dlist database with upper case characters.  That
>>> didn't match the key we were searching on (which was all lower case), so
>>> we
>>> couldn't find her record, and mailman summarily crashed (luckily mailman
>>> does a great job of recovering from problems like this and restarts with
>>> almost no side effects).
>>>
>>> Kanika Vats is going to fix the problem (which apparently exists in
>>> several
>>> places; we never noticed it before because it's currently not possible to
>>> create a record with upper case letters in the email key, so none of our
>>> testing exposed this. ) She's doing it, a) because she found the problem,
>>> and b) because it is in the code she wrote last summer, though it looks
>>> like
>>> the problem existed before her changes.  We will need to pull this over to
>>> abiwt.org, our current testing machine, and run a mini test cycle on it,
>>> as
>>> quickly as we can.  (Jen, are we still using abiwt.org for integration
>>> testing, or should we be using the new machine?)
>>>
>>> For the test cycle, I'm hoping that Jason, who is the mentor for our
>>> testing
>>> project and Vidya, the student on that project, can use this as a chance
>>> to
>>> learn how testing works now (so you really know what you are trying to
>>> improve). We can take our current set of manual tests and pare this cycle
>>> down to just the ones that access the dlist database, plus a couple that
>>> test the core functionality (like the ability to send to the list).  I'm
>>> happy to work with you two to figure out what those tests are.  (This
>>> could
>>> get started now, so that we are ready to test when the code is done).
>>>
>>> Then we will need folks from this list to help with the testing.  It's
>>> probably only 4-5 hours work total, which, if we get lots of people, we
>>> can
>>> get done with about 30 minutes of work on the part of each tester.
>>>  Students, this will be a chance for you to learn about system testing,
>>> which will serve you well this summer, plus you will learn more about how
>>> mailman works, so I hope that all of you will participate.    I'll leave
>>> it
>>> to Vidya and Jason to organize that when we get this far, which I hope
>>> will
>>> be early next week.
>>>
>>> We are also going to use this to try out a code review.  I was hoping to
>>> have a bit more structure in place before doing it, but this gives me (as
>>> code reviewer) and kanika vats (as person being reviewed) a chance to
>>> figure
>>> out how to use the tools that launchpad provides.  We are going to expect
>>> everyone to have their code reviewed regularly this summer, so I'll try to
>>> be public about what we are learning, so that it will be easier for the
>>> rest
>>> of you.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help on this.  It's always frustrating to have to do one
>>> of
>>> these test cycles outside the ones we plan for the summer (and where we
>>> give
>>> a lot more notice), but I think it turns out to be a great opportunity for
>>> people to learn more about how things work here in a lightweight way.  I
>>> appreciate everyone chipping in to make it go quickly and smoothly.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
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